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Agenda and minutes

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Transcript: Transcript for 10/03/2020 - Plenary

Items
Note No. Item

(45 mins)

1.

Questions to the First Minister

The Presiding Officer will call the Party Leaders to ask questions without notice to the First Minister after Question 2.

View Questions

Minutes:

The item started at 13.00

Questions 2 – 7 were asked. Question 1 was not asked. The Presiding Officer invited party leaders to ask questions to the First Minister after question 2.

(0 mins)

2.

Questions to the Counsel General and and Minister for European Transition (in respect of his "law officer" responsibilities) - POSTPONED TO WEDNESDAY 11 MARCH

(30 mins)

3.

Business Statement and Announcement

Minutes:

The item started at 14.07

 

(0 mins)

4.

Statement by the Deputy Minister and Chief Whip: International Women's Day - TO BE ISSUED AS A WRITTEN STATEMENT

(45 mins)

5.

Statement by the Minister for Health and Social Services: Coronavirus (COVID-2019) update

Minutes:

The item started at 14.31

 

Proposal under Standing Order 12.24 to debate the following two items together but with separate votes (15 mins)

6.

The Regulation and Inspection of Social Care (Wales) Act 2016 and Regulated Services (Miscellaneous Amendments) Regulations 2020

NDM7292 - Rebecca Evans (Gower)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales; in accordance with Standing Order 27.5:

1. Approves that the draft The Regulation and Inspection of Social Care (Wales) Act 2016 and Regulated Services (Miscellaneous Amendments) Regulations 2020 is made in accordance with the draft laid in the Table Office on 11 February 2020.

Supporting Documents
Explanatory Memorandum
Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee Report

Minutes:

The item started at 15.16

NDM7292 - Rebecca Evans (Gower)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales; in accordance with Standing Order 27.5:

1. Approves that the draft The Regulation and Inspection of Social Care (Wales) Act 2016 and Regulated Services (Miscellaneous Amendments) Regulations 2020 is made in accordance with the draft laid in the Table Office on 11 February 2020.

The motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

 

7.

The Social Care Wales (Specification of Social Care Workers) (Registration) (Amendment) Regulations 2020

NDM7293 - Rebecca Evans (Gower)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales; in accordance with Standing Order 27.5:

1.  Approves that the draft The Social Care Wales (Specification of Social Care Workers) (Registration) (Amendment) Regulations 2020 is made in accordance with the draft laid in the Table Office on 11 February 2020.

Supporting Documents
Explanatory Memorandum
Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee Report

Minutes:

The item started at 15.16

NDM7293 - Rebecca Evans (Gower)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales; in accordance with Standing Order 27.5:

1.  Approves that the draft The Social Care Wales (Specification of Social Care Workers) (Registration) (Amendment) Regulations 2020 is made in accordance with the draft laid in the Table Office on 11 February 2020.

The motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

 

(30 mins)

8.

Debate: The Police Settlement 2020-2021

NDM7291 - Rebecca Evans (Gower)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, under Section 84H of the Local Government Finance Act 1988, approves the Local Government Finance Report (No. 2) 2020-21 (Final Settlement - Police and Crime Commissioners), which was laid in the Table Office on 23 January 2020.

Minutes:

The item started at 15.21

NDM7291 - Rebecca Evans (Gower)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, under Section 84H of the Local Government Finance Act 1988, approves the Local Government Finance Report (No. 2) 2020-21 (Final Settlement - Police and Crime Commissioners), which was laid in the Table Office on 23 January 2020.

The motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

 

(60 mins)

9.

Debate: Cardiff Airport

NDM7290 - Rebecca Evans (Gower)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1. Recognises the economic and social importance to Wales of Cardiff International Airport.

2. Welcomes that Cardiff International Airport is now responsible for the operation of Anglesey Airport’s passenger terminal facility and recognises the important regional air link between north and south Wales.

3. Recognises that over 1700 people are employed at the Cardiff Airport site and the £250m of GVA benefit it brings to Wales’s economy.

4. Agrees that it is vital for Wales’s trading economy post-Brexit to support Cardiff Airport as part of a high quality, integrated and low carbon public transport system in Wales.

5. Notes the UK Government’s interventionist approach to rescuing Flybe but calls upon the UK Government to go further to boost competitiveness by supporting the cost of regulation at the UK’s smaller airports, as happens across Europe.

6. Calls upon the new UK Government to finally allow the devolution of Air Passenger Duty in full to Wales.

The following amendments have been tabled:

Amendment 1 - Darren Millar (Clwyd West)

Delete all and replace with:

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1. Notes news that Flybe has entered administration and expresses concern about the potential adverse impact of this on the future of Cardiff Airport.

2. Calls on the Welsh Government to publish a comprehensive strategy for Cardiff Airport with the aim of returning it to the commercial sector at the earliest opportunity and at a profit to the Welsh taxpayer, and that the strategy should include plans to:

a) invest in the airport's capital infrastructure to enable the airport to diversify and generate new sources of revenue;

b) support route development, prioritising a direct flight link to the USA and one to Manchester given its status as a major hub in the north of England serving north Wales;

c) develop a new marketing strategy for the airport;

d) work with the UK Government to devolve and scrap Air Passenger Duty;

e) improve transport links to the airport to make the airport more accessible by investing in improved road, rail and public transport links.

Amendment 2 - Caroline Jones (South Wales West)

Add as new point at end of motion:

Looks to Cardiff International Airport to make annual profits at least at the operating level, i.e. before finance costs.

Amendment 3 - Caroline Jones (South Wales West)

Add as new point at end of motion:

Calls upon the Welsh Government to seek a private sector partner to help operate and take a minority stake in Cardiff International Airport within 5 years.

Minutes:

The item started at 15.46

Voting on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time.

NDM7290 - Rebecca Evans (Gower)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1. Recognises the economic and social importance to Wales of Cardiff International Airport.

2. Welcomes that Cardiff International Airport is now responsible for the operation of Anglesey Airport’s passenger terminal facility and recognises the important regional air link between north and south Wales.

3. Recognises that over 1700 people are employed at the Cardiff Airport site and the £250m of GVA benefit it brings to Wales’s economy.

4. Agrees that it is vital for Wales’s trading economy post-Brexit to support Cardiff Airport as part of a high quality, integrated and low carbon public transport system in Wales.

5. Notes the UK Government’s interventionist approach to rescuing Flybe but calls upon the UK Government to go further to boost competitiveness by supporting the cost of regulation at the UK’s smaller airports, as happens across Europe.

6. Calls upon the new UK Government to finally allow the devolution of Air Passenger Duty in full to Wales.

The following amendments were tabled:

Amendment 1 - Darren Millar (Clwyd West)

Delete all and replace with:

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1. Notes news that Flybe has entered administration and expresses concern about the potential adverse impact of this on the future of Cardiff Airport.

2. Calls on the Welsh Government to publish a comprehensive strategy for Cardiff Airport with the aim of returning it to the commercial sector at the earliest opportunity and at a profit to the Welsh taxpayer, and that the strategy should include plans to:

a) invest in the airport's capital infrastructure to enable the airport to diversify and generate new sources of revenue;

b) support route development, prioritising a direct flight link to the USA and one to Manchester given its status as a major hub in the north of England serving north Wales;

c) develop a new marketing strategy for the airport;

d) work with the UK Government to devolve and scrap Air Passenger Duty;

e) improve transport links to the airport to make the airport more accessible by investing in improved road, rail and public transport links.

A vote was taken on amendment 1:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

12

0

38

50

Amendment 1 was not agreed.

Amendment 2 - Caroline Jones (South Wales West)

Add as new point at end of motion:

Looks to Cardiff International Airport to make annual profits at least at the operating level, i.e. before finance costs.

A vote was taken on amendment 2:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

13

0

37

50

Amendment 2 was not agreed.

Amendment 3 - Caroline Jones (South Wales West)

Add as new point at end of motion:

Calls upon the Welsh Government to seek a private sector partner to help operate and take a minority stake in Cardiff International Airport within 5 years.

A vote was taken on amendment 3:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

14

0

37

51

Amendment 3 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on the motion:

NDM7290 - Rebecca Evans (Gower)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1. Recognises the economic and social importance to Wales of Cardiff International Airport.

2. Welcomes that Cardiff International Airport is now responsible for the operation of Anglesey Airport’s passenger terminal facility and recognises the important regional air link between north and south Wales.

3. Recognises that over 1700 people are employed at the Cardiff Airport site and the £250m of GVA benefit it brings to Wales’s economy.

4. Agrees that it is vital for Wales’s trading economy post-Brexit to support Cardiff Airport as part of a high quality, integrated and low carbon public transport system in Wales.

5. Notes the UK Government’s interventionist approach to rescuing Flybe but calls upon the UK Government to go further to boost competitiveness by supporting the cost of regulation at the UK’s smaller airports, as happens across Europe.

6. Calls upon the new UK Government to finally allow the devolution of Air Passenger Duty in full to Wales.

For

Abstain

Against

Total

39

0

12

51

The motion was agreed.

 

Deputy Presiding Officer Statement

At 16.38, before moving to Voting Time and the Stage 3 debate on the Health and Social Care (Quality and Engagement) (Wales) Bill, proceedings were suspended for 20 minutes. The bell was rung 5 minutes before reconvening.

 

 

10.

Voting Time

Minutes:

The item started at 16.58

 

(300 mins)

11.

Debate: Stage 3 of the Health and Social Care (Quality and Engagement) (Wales) Bill

The amendments have been grouped for the purposes of debate and the groupings will be debated as follows:

1.   Duty to secure quality in health services - workforce planning and appropriate staffing levels

21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34

2.   Duty to secure quality in health services - meaning of ‘quality’

60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71

3.   Duty to secure quality in health services - power to issue guidance

16, 17, 18

4.   Duty to secure quality in health services - non-compliance

35

5.   Duty to secure quality in health services - data

38

6.   Duty to secure quality in health services - register of managers

72

7.    Duty to secure quality in health services - review of statement of standards

36, 37

8. Duty of candour - non-compliance

39, 73, 74

9. Citizen Voice Body - members

5, 48, 6, 7, 8, 49, 9, 50, 51, 52, 10, 53, 11, 12, 54, 56, 14

10. Citizen Voice Body - indemnity cover for volunteers and staff

55

11. Citizen Voice Body - resources

57, 58

 

12.  Citizen Voice Body - audit

13

13. Citizen Voice Body - structures and engagement

40, 19, 59, 75, 20

14.  Citizen Voice Body - representations to public bodies

41, 76, 1, 42,  77

15. Joint complaints

43, 47

16. Citizen Voice Body - duty to supply information

2

17.   Citizen Voice Body - Entry to premises

3, 45

18. Citizen Voice Body - duty to co-operate

4, 46

19. Citizen Voice Body - support for volunteers and staff

44

20. Citizen Voice Body - application of Welsh language standards

15

Supporting Documents
Health and Social Care (Quality and Engagement) (Wales) Bill
Explanatory Memorandum
Marshalled List of Amendments
Groupings of Amendments

Minutes:

A vote was taken on amendment 21:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

23

0

28

51

Amendment 21 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 22:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

23

0

27

50

Amendment 22 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 60:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

21

1

29

51

Amendment 60 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 61:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

21

1

29

51

Amendment 61 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 62:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

21

1

28

50

Amendment 62 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 23:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

23

0

27

50

Amendment 23 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 24:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

22

0

28

50

Amendment 24 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 25:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

23

0

27

50

Amendment 25 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 63:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

21

0

30

51

Amendment 63 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 64:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

21

0

29

50

Amendment 64 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 65:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

21

0

29

50

Amendment 65 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 26:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

23

0

28

51

Amendment 26 was not agreed.

Amendment 16 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

A vote was taken on amendment 27:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

22

0

28

50

Amendment 27 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 28:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

22

0

28

50

Amendment 28 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 66:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

21

0

29

50

Amendment 66 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 67:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

21

0

29

50

Amendment 67 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 68:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

21

0

29

50

Amendment 68 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 29:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

22

0

28

50

Amendment 29 was not agreed.

Amendment 17 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

A vote was taken on amendment 30:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

22

0

28

50

Amendment 30 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 31:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

22

0

28

50

Amendment 31 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 69:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

20

0

29

49

Amendment 69 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 70:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

21

0

29

50

Amendment 70 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 71:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

21

0

29

50

Amendment 71 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 32:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

21

1

28

50

Amendment 32 was not agreed.

Amendment 18 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

A vote was taken on amendment 33:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

21

0

28

49

Amendment 33 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 34:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

22

0

28

50

Amendment 34 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 35:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

23

0

28

51

Amendment 35 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 38:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

23

0

28

51

Amendment 38 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 72:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

22

0

28

50

Amendment 72 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 36:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

22

0

28

50

Amendment 36 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 37:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

22

0

28

50

Amendment 37 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 39:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

22

0

28

50

Amendment 39 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 73:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

22

0

27

49

Amendment 73 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 74:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

22

0

26

48

Amendment 74 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 5:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

28

0

22

50

Amendment 5 was agreed.

As amendment 5 was agreed, amendment 48 fell.

A vote was taken on amendment 6:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

38

0

12

50

Amendment 6 was agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 7:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

34

5

11

50

Amendment 7 was agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 8:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

28

0

22

50

Amendment 8 was agreed.

As amendment 8 was agreed, amendment 49 fell.

A vote was taken on amendment 9:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

28

0

22

50

Amendment 9 was agreed.

As amendment 9 was agreed, amendments 50, 51 and 52 fell.

A vote was taken on amendment 10:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

27

0

21

48

Amendment 10 was agreed.

As amendment 10 was agreed, amendment 53 fell.

A vote was taken on amendment 11:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

38

1

11

50

Amendment 11 was agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 12:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

38

1

11

50

Amendment 12 was agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 54:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

22

0

28

50

Amendment 54 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 56:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

21

0

29

50

Amendment 56 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 55:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

21

0

28

49

Amendment 55 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 57:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

21

0

27

48

Amendment 57 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 58:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

20

0

27

47

Amendment 58 was not agreed.

Amendment 13 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

A vote was taken on amendment 14:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

37

0

11

48

Amendment 14 was agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 40:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

21

0

27

48

Amendment 40 was not agreed.

Amendment 19 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

A vote was taken on amendment 59:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

28

3

17

48

Amendment 59 was agreed.

As amendment 59 was agreed, amendment 75 fell.

A vote was taken on amendment 41:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

15

0

33

48

Amendment 41 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 76:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

21

0

27

48

Amendment 76 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 1:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

37

0

11

48

Amendment 1 was agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 42:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

15

0

33

48

Amendment 42 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 77:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

21

0

27

48

Amendment 77 was not agreed.

Amendment 20 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

A vote was taken on amendment 43:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

20

0

28

48

Amendment 43 was not agreed.

Amendment 2 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

A vote was taken on amendment 3:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

37

0

11

48

Amendment 3 was agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 4:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

37

1

10

48

Amendment 4 was agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 44:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

20

0

27

47

Amendment 44 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 45:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

20

0

27

47

Amendment 45 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 46:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

19

0

27

46

Amendment 46 was not agreed.

As amendment 43 was not agreed, amendment 47 fell.

Amendment 15 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

 

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