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Transcript: Transcript for 27/11/2019 - Plenary - Fifth Senedd
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(45 mins) |
Questions to the Minister for Education The
Presiding Officer will call party spokespeople to ask questions without notice
after Question 2. Supporting documents: Minutes: The
item started at 13.30 The
first 8 questions were asked. The Presiding Officer invited party spokespeople
to ask questions to the Minister after question 2. |
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(45 mins) |
Questions to the Minister for Health and Social Services The
Presiding Officer will call party spokespeople to ask questions without notice
after Question 2. Minutes: The
item started at 14.21 The
first 6 questions were asked. Question 5 was answered by the Deputy Minister.
The Presiding Officer invited party spokespeople to ask questions to the
Minister after question 2. |
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(20 mins) |
Topical Questions To ask the Deputy Minister and Chief Whip Jack Sargeant (Alyn and Deeside): Will
the Minister make a statement on how the Welsh Government is helping young
people who experience violence in relationships? (TAQ369) To ask the Minister for Housing and Local
Government Andrew RT Davies (South Wales Central): Will the Minister make a statement on the status of
the environmental impact assessment made of the Barry incinerator, given that
testing at the plant has already commenced? (TAQ370) (This question will be answered by the Deputy
Minister for Housing and Local Government) Minutes: The item started at
15.13 To ask the Deputy Minister and Chief Whip Jack Sargeant
(Alyn and Deeside): Will
the Minister make a statement on how the Welsh Government is helping young
people who experience violence in relationships Answered by the Deputy Minister for Housing and Local Government Andrew RT Davies
(South Wales Central): Will the Minister make a statement on the status of
the environmental impact assessment made of the Barry incinerator, given that
testing at the plant has already commenced? |
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(5 mins) |
90 Second Statements Minutes: The item started at
15.28 Dawn Bowden made a
statement on - Electrical Fire Safety Week Cymru. |
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(15 mins) |
Debate: Stage 4 of the Senedd and Elections (Wales) Bill NDM7208 Elin Jones (Ceredigion) To propose that the National Assembly for
Wales, in accordance with Standing Order 26.47: Approves the Senedd and Elections (Wales)
Bill. Senedd and Elections (Wales) Bill Supporting Document Minutes: The item started at 15.29 Voting on the
motion under this item was deferred until Voting Time. NDM7208 Elin Jones (Ceredigion) To propose that the
National Assembly for Wales, in accordance with Standing Order 26.47: Approves the Senedd
and Elections (Wales) Bill. Senedd and Elections (Wales) Bill The result was as
follows:
The motion was agreed. |
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Voting on Item 5 |
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(60 mins) |
Member Debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv) - Pancreatic Cancer NDM7191 Lynne Neagle (Torfaen) To propose that the National Assembly for
Wales: 1. Recognises that one in four people diagnosed
with pancreatic cancer in the UK do not survive the disease beyond a month and
three in four do not survive beyond a year, many because they were not treated
quickly enough. 2. Recognises in Wales there are around 500
new cases of pancreatic cancers every year, and that, in 2015, some 508 people
were diagnosed with pancreatic cancer and in the same year some 451 people died
of the disease. 3. Recognises pancreatic cancer is the
deadliest common cancer with a dismal prognosis that has hardly changed in the
last 45 years. 4. Welcomes Pancreatic Cancer Awareness Month
(November) and the work Pancreatic Cancer UK does to promote awareness around
the lowest surviving and quickest killing cancer. 5. Calls on Welsh Government to take action to
improve survival rates for people with pancreatic cancer in Wales through: a) faster treatment, by learning from
fast-track surgery models in England that have shown promising results; b) earlier diagnosis, by learning from Rapid
Diagnostic Centres being rolled out in England and piloted by Swansea Bay
University Health Board and Cwm Taf Morgannwg University Health Board; and c) holistic support, through timely dietary
and nutritional support to enable patients to better tolerate treatment. Co-Submitters David Melding (South Wales Central) Supporters Joyce Watson (Mid and West Wales) Neil Hamilton (Mid and West Wales) Neil McEvoy (South Wales Central) Minutes: The item started at 15.54 Voting
on the motion under this item was deferred until Voting Time. DM7191 Lynne Neagle (Torfaen) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: 1.
Recognises that one in four people diagnosed with pancreatic cancer in the UK
do not survive the disease beyond a month and three in four do not survive
beyond a year, many because they were not treated quickly enough. 2.
Recognises in Wales there are around 500 new cases of pancreatic cancers every
year, and that, in 2015, some 508 people were diagnosed with pancreatic cancer
and in the same year some 451 people died of the disease. 3.
Recognises pancreatic cancer is the deadliest common cancer with a dismal
prognosis that has hardly changed in the last 45 years. 4.
Welcomes Pancreatic Cancer Awareness Month (November) and the work Pancreatic
Cancer UK does to promote awareness around the lowest surviving and quickest
killing cancer. 5.
Calls on Welsh Government to take action to improve survival rates for people
with pancreatic cancer in Wales through: a)
faster treatment, by learning from fast-track surgery models in England that
have shown promising results; b)
earlier diagnosis, by learning from Rapid Diagnostic Centres being rolled out
in England and piloted by Swansea Bay University Health Board and Cwm Taf
Morgannwg University Health Board; and c)
holistic support, through timely dietary and nutritional support to enable
patients to better tolerate treatment. Co-Submitters David Melding (South Wales Central) Supporters Joyce Watson (Mid and West Wales) Neil Hamilton (Mid and West Wales) Neil McEvoy (South Wales Central) The
result was as follows:
The motion was agreed. |
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(60 mins) |
Welsh Conservatives Debate - Welsh Government Funding NDM7206 Darren Millar (Clwyd West) To propose that the National Assembly for
Wales: 1. Believes that Wales benefits from being part
of the United Kingdom. 2. Notes that, as a result of the Fiscal
Framework agreed between the Welsh and UK Governments, Wales currently receives
£1.20 per head for every £1 spent per head in England on devolved matters. 3. Welcomes the additional £790 million over
and above the Welsh block grant which has been committed by the UK Government
towards Growth Deals across Wales. 4. Recognises that the funding available for
the Welsh Government is at record levels. 5. Calls upon the Welsh Government to: a) use any additional resources which arise as
a result of increased investment on the NHS by the UK Government to improve the
Welsh health service; b) use any additional resources which arise as
a result of increased investment on education by the UK Government to improve
the Welsh education system; c) rule out any tax rises or new taxes in
Wales between now and the next elections to the National Assembly for Wales. The following amendments have been tabled: Amendment 1 - Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn) Delete all and replace with: To propose that the National Assembly for
Wales: 1. Believes that successive Westminster
Governments – under both Labour and the Conservatives – have presided over
intergenerational poverty and chronic underinvestment in Wales. 2. Believes that having the economic and
fiscal levers of an independent country is the key to Wales’s future economic
prosperity. [If Amendment 1 is agreed amendment 2 will
be de-selected] Amendment 2 - Rebecca
Evans (Gower) Delete all after point 1 and replace with: Notes that the Welsh Government
successfully negotiated a new needs based factor within the Barnett formula as
part of the Fiscal Framework agreement with the UK Government. Regrets that the UK Government often
invests less than the Welsh Government in important non-devolved areas of
responsibility across Wales including rail infrastructure and digital
connectivity. Notes that the UK Government’s one year
spending round leaves the Welsh Government £300m worse off in real terms
compared with 2010-11 and condemns a decade of unjust, UK imposed austerity. Notes that despite the pressures caused by
austerity, the Country and Regional Analysis November 2019 statistics shows
that in Wales: a) spending per person on health and social
services was the highest of the four UK countries and 11 per cent higher than
in England; b) spending per person on education was 6
per cent higher than spending per person in England. Notes the Welsh Government’s commitment to
not increase Welsh rates of Income Tax during this Assembly term. Country
and Regional Analysis November 2019 statistics Minutes: The
item started at 16.30 Voting
on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time. A
vote was taken on the motion without amendment: NDM7206 Darren Millar (Clwyd West) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: 1.
Believes that Wales benefits from being part of the United Kingdom. 2.
Notes that, as a result of the Fiscal Framework agreed between the Welsh and UK
Governments, Wales currently receives £1.20 per head for every £1 spent per
head in England on devolved matters. 3.
Welcomes the additional £790 million over and above the Welsh block grant which
has been committed by the UK Government towards Growth Deals across Wales. 4.
Recognises that the funding available for the Welsh Government is at record
levels. 5.
Calls upon the Welsh Government to: a)
use any additional resources which arise as a result of increased investment on
the NHS by the UK Government to improve the Welsh health service; b)
use any additional resources which arise as a result of increased investment on
education by the UK Government to improve the Welsh education system; c)
rule out any tax rises or new taxes in Wales between now and the next elections
to the National Assembly for Wales.
The motion without amendment was not
agreed. The
following amendments were tabled: Amendment
1 - Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn) Delete
all and replace with: To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: 1.
Believes that successive Westminster Governments – under both Labour and the
Conservatives – have presided over intergenerational poverty and chronic
underinvestment in Wales. 2.
Believes that having the economic and fiscal levers of an independent country
is the key to Wales’s future economic prosperity. A
vote was taken on amendment 1:
Amendment 1 was not agreed. Amendment
2 - Rebecca Evans (Gower) Delete
all after point 1 and replace with: Notes
that the Welsh Government successfully negotiated a new needs based factor within
the Barnett formula as part of the Fiscal Framework agreement with the UK
Government. Regrets
that the UK Government often invests less than the Welsh Government in
important non-devolved areas of responsibility across Wales including rail
infrastructure and digital connectivity. Notes
that the UK Government’s one year spending round leaves the Welsh Government
£300m worse off in real terms compared with 2010-11 and condemns a decade of
unjust, UK imposed austerity. Notes
that despite the pressures caused by austerity, the Country and Regional
Analysis November 2019 statistics shows that in Wales: a)
spending per person on health and social services was the highest of the four
UK countries and 11 per cent higher than in England; b)
spending per person on education was 6 per cent higher than spending per person
in England. Notes
the Welsh Government’s commitment to not increase Welsh rates of Income Tax
during this Assembly term. A
vote was taken on amendment 2:
Amendment 2 was agreed. A
vote was taken on the motion as amended: NDM7206 Darren Millar (Clwyd West) To propose
that the National Assembly for Wales: 1.
Believes that Wales benefits from being part of the United Kingdom. 2.
Notes that the Welsh Government successfully negotiated a new needs based
factor within the Barnett formula as part of the Fiscal Framework agreement
with the UK Government. 3.
Regrets that the UK Government often invests less than the Welsh Government in
important non-devolved areas of responsibility across Wales including rail
infrastructure and digital connectivity. 4.
Notes that the UK Government’s one year spending round leaves the Welsh
Government £300m worse off in real terms compared with 2010-11 and condemns a
decade of unjust, UK imposed austerity. 5.
Notes that despite the pressures caused by austerity, the Country and Regional
Analysis November 2019 statistics shows that in Wales: a)
spending per person on health and social services was the highest of the four
UK countries and 11 per cent higher than in England; b)
spending per person on education was 6 per cent higher than spending per person
in England. 6.
Notes the Welsh Government’s commitment to not increase Welsh rates of Income
Tax during this Assembly term.
The motion as amended was agreed. |
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(60 mins) |
Brexit Party Debate - Lobbyist Register NDM7205 Caroline Jones (South Wales West) To propose that the National Assembly for
Wales: 1. Notes that the National Assembly for Wales
is the only national legislature in the UK without a lobbyist register. 2. Believes that a lobbyist register would
help to promote openness and transparency in Welsh politics. 3. Calls on the Welsh Government to consult
immediately on implementing a lobbyist register for Wales. The following amendment has been tabled: Amendment 1 - Darren
Millar (Clwyd West) Delete points 2 and 3 and replace with: Calls upon the Assembly Commission to
provide an update on the action it has taken since the publication of the
Standards of Conduct Committee report on lobbying published in January 2018. Welcomes the intention of the Standards of
Conduct Committee to give further consideration to lobbying prior to the end of
the fifth Assembly. Standards
of Conduct Committee - Lobbying - January 2018 Minutes: The
item started at 17.34 Voting
on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time. A
vote was taken on the motion without amendment: NDM7205 Caroline Jones (South Wales
West) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: 1.
Notes that the National Assembly for Wales is the only national legislature in
the UK without a lobbyist register. 2.
Believes that a lobbyist register would help to promote openness and
transparency in Welsh politics. 3.
Calls on the Welsh Government to consult immediately on implementing a lobbyist
register for Wales.
The motion without amendment was not
agreed. The
following amendments were tabled: Amendment
1 - Darren Millar (Clwyd West) Delete
points 2 and 3 and replace with: Calls
upon the Assembly Commission to provide an update on the action it has taken
since the publication of the Standards of Conduct Committee report on lobbying
published in January 2018. Welcomes
the intention of the Standards of Conduct Committee to give further
consideration to lobbying prior to the end of the fifth Assembly. A
vote was taken on amendment 1:
Amendment 1 was agreed. A
vote was taken on the motion as amended: NDM7205 Caroline Jones (South Wales
West) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: 1.
Notes that the National Assembly for Wales is the only national legislature in
the UK without a lobbyist register. 2. Calls
upon the Assembly Commission to provide an update on the action it has taken
since the publication of the Standards of Conduct Committee report on lobbying
published in January 2018. 3.
Welcomes the intention of the Standards of Conduct Committee to give further
consideration to lobbying prior to the end of the fifth Assembly.
The motion as amended was agreed. |
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Point of Order Huw
Irranca-Davies raised a point of order questioning the language used by
Caroline Jones in introducing the Brexit Party Debate on a Lobbyist Register. The
DPO stated that what was said was a general accusation against a government
rather than against individuals, but reminded Members of their responsibility
to use their privilege against defamation responsibly. The DPO stated she would
review the record and return to the matter should that be necessary. |
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Voting Time Minutes: The
item started at 18.13 |
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