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Transcript: Transcript for 04/02/2020 - Plenary

Items
Note No. Item

(0 mins)

1.

Questions to the Counsel General and Brexit Minister (in respect of his "law officer" responsibilities)

No Questions Tabled

Minutes:

No questions tabled.

 

(30 mins)

2.

Business Statement and Announcement

Minutes:

The item started at 14.35

 

(45 mins)

3.

Statement by the Minister for Health and Social Services: Update on the work of the Inter-Ministerial Group on Paying for Social Care

Minutes:

The item started at 15.03

 

(15 mins)

4.

The Sustainable Drainage (Enforcement) (Wales) (Amendment) Order 2020

NDM7258 - Rebecca Evans (Gower)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales; in accordance with Standing Order 27.5:

1. Approves that the draft The Sustainable Drainage (Enforcement) (Wales) (Amendment) Order 2020 is made in accordance with the draft laid in the Table Office on 14 January 2020.

Supporting Documents
Explanatory Memorandum
Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee Report

Minutes:

The item started at 15.38

NDM7258 - Rebecca Evans (Gower)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales; in accordance with Standing Order 27.5:

1. Approves that the draft The Sustainable Drainage (Enforcement) (Wales) (Amendment) Order 2020 is made in accordance with the draft laid in the Table Office on 14 January 2020.

The motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

 

(120 mins)

5.

Debate: Draft Budget 2020-2021

NDM7259 - Rebecca Evans (Gower)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, in accordance with Standing Order 20.12:

Notes the Draft Budget for the financial year 2020-21 laid in the Table Office by the Minister for Finance and Trefnydd on 16 December 2019.

Supporting Documents
Finance Committee Report
Economy, Infrastructure and Skills Committee Report
Climate Change, Environment and Rural Affairs Committee Report
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee Report
Children, Young People and Education Committee Report
Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee

Minutes:

The item started at 15.45

Voting on the motion under this item was deferred until Voting Time.

NDM7259 - Rebecca Evans (Gower)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, in accordance with Standing Order 20.12:

Notes the Draft Budget for the financial year 2020-21 laid in the Table Office by the Minister for Finance and Trefnydd on 16 December 2019.

The result was as follows:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

28

0

23

51

The motion was agreed.

 

(60 mins)

6.

Debate: Report of the Commission on Justice in Wales

NDM7260 - Rebecca Evans (Gower)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1. Welcomes the landmark report of the Commission on Justice in Wales and the unprecedented body of evidence it generated, and thanks the members and staff of the Commission for their work;

2. Recognises the dedication and commitment to public service shown by the many people and organisations who work within the justice system, but nevertheless notes with dismay the central finding of the Commission that the people of Wales are let down by their justice system;

3. Supports the Welsh Government’s intention of both taking forward those recommendations within its current competence and working with other bodies to take forward recommendations within their responsibility;

4. Notes the Commission’s key finding that in order to make a lasting difference to the delivery of justice in Wales, policy must be determined and overseen in Wales; and

5. Supports the devolution of justice and policing, and full funding for each as a way of properly aligning the operation of the justice system with the wider policy objectives for Wales agreed by this Assembly.

Report of the Commission on Justice in Wales

The following amendments have been tabled:

Amendment 1 - Darren Millar (Clwyd West)

Delete all and replace with:

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1. Notes the report of the Commission on Justice in Wales and recognises the dedication and commitment to public service shown by the many people and organisations who work within the justice system.

2. Regrets failings in the criminal justice system in Wales, where the Welsh Government has responsibility for a range of key services.

3. Welcomes the UK Government’s commitment to deliver offender management services in Wales which reflect the devolved responsibilities of the Welsh Government.

4. Notes that the cross-border nature of criminal activity must be central to the operation of justice and policing in Wales.

[If Amendment 1 is agreed amendment 2 will be de-selected]

Amendment 2 - Caroline Jones (South Wales West)

Delete points 3, 4 and 5 and replace with:

Opposes the devolution of justice and policing.

Welcomes the UK Government increasing funding for policing.

Calls on the UK Government to increase funding to improve the justice system.

Minutes:

The item started at 17.27

Voting on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time.

NDM7260 - Rebecca Evans (Gower)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1. Welcomes the landmark report of the Commission on Justice in Wales and the unprecedented body of evidence it generated, and thanks the members and staff of the Commission for their work;

2. Recognises the dedication and commitment to public service shown by the many people and organisations who work within the justice system, but nevertheless notes with dismay the central finding of the Commission that the people of Wales are let down by their justice system;

3. Supports the Welsh Government’s intention of both taking forward those recommendations within its current competence and working with other bodies to take forward recommendations within their responsibility;

4. Notes the Commission’s key finding that in order to make a lasting difference to the delivery of justice in Wales, policy must be determined and overseen in Wales; and

5. Supports the devolution of justice and policing, and full funding for each as a way of properly aligning the operation of the justice system with the wider policy objectives for Wales agreed by this Assembly.

The following amendments were tabled:

Delete all and replace with:

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1. Notes the report of the Commission on Justice in Wales and recognises the dedication and commitment to public service shown by the many people and organisations who work within the justice system.

2. Regrets failings in the criminal justice system in Wales, where the Welsh Government has responsibility for a range of key services.

3. Welcomes the UK Government’s commitment to deliver offender management services in Wales which reflect the devolved responsibilities of the Welsh Government.

4. Notes that the cross-border nature of criminal activity must be central to the operation of justice and policing in Wales.

A vote was taken on amendment 1:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

11

3

39

53

Amendment 1 was not agreed.

Delete points 3, 4 and 5 and replace with:

Opposes the devolution of justice and policing.

Welcomes the UK Government increasing funding for policing.

Calls on the UK Government to increase funding to improve the justice system.

A vote was taken on amendment 2:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

15

0

38

53

Amendment 2 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on the motion:

NDM7260 - Rebecca Evans (Gower)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1. Welcomes the landmark report of the Commission on Justice in Wales and the unprecedented body of evidence it generated, and thanks the members and staff of the Commission for their work;

2. Recognises the dedication and commitment to public service shown by the many people and organisations who work within the justice system, but nevertheless notes with dismay the central finding of the Commission that the people of Wales are let down by their justice system;

3. Supports the Welsh Government’s intention of both taking forward those recommendations within its current competence and working with other bodies to take forward recommendations within their responsibility;

4. Notes the Commission’s key finding that in order to make a lasting difference to the delivery of justice in Wales, policy must be determined and overseen in Wales; and

5. Supports the devolution of justice and policing, and full funding for each as a way of properly aligning the operation of the justice system with the wider policy objectives for Wales agreed by this Assembly.

For

Abstain

Against

Total

38

0

15

53

The motion was agreed.

 

7.

Voting Time

Minutes:

The item started at 18.29

 

Votes Summary

Supporting documents:

(45 mins)

8.

Questions to the First Minister

The Presiding Officer will call Party Leaders to ask questions without notice to the First Minister after Question 2.

View Questions

Minutes:

The item started at 13.30

The first 8 questions were asked. The Presiding Officer invited party leaders to ask questions to the First Minister after question 2.

 

 

 

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