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Transcript: Transcript for 22/11/2017 - Plenary - Fifth Senedd
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(45 mins) |
Questions to the Cabinet Secretary for Economy and Transport The
Presiding Officer will call Party Spokespeople to ask questions without notice
to the Cabinet Secretary after Question 2. Supporting documents: Minutes: The item started at
13.30 The first 7
questions were asked. Question 1 was answered by the Minister for Culture,
Tourism and Sport. The Presiding Officer invited party spokespeople to ask
questions to the Cabinet Secretary after question 2. |
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(45 mins) |
Questions to the Counsel General Minutes: The item started
14.21 The 7 questions
were asked. |
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(20 mins) |
Topical Questions To ask the Cabinet
Secretary for Education Darren
Millar (Clwyd West): Further
to reports of spending on celebrity speakers by GwE, will the Cabinet Secretary
make a statement on accountability arrangements for regional education
consortia in Wales? To ask the Cabinet
Secretary for Economy and Transport Adam
Price (Carmarthen East and Dinefwr): Will the government make a statement on the
A465 Heads of the Valleys road enlargement scheme, following reports that the
long term cost of the project could soar from £428m to more than £1.2bn? To ask the Cabinet
Secretary for Local Government and Public Services Leanne
Wood (Rhondda): Will
the Cabinet Secretary make a statement on the impact of the UK Budget on public
sector pay in Wales? Minutes: The item started
14.45 To ask the Cabinet Secretary for Education Darren
Millar (Clwyd West): Further to reports of spending on
celebrity speakers by GwE, will the Cabinet Secretary make a statement on
accountability arrangements for regional education consortia in Wales? To ask the Cabinet Secretary for Economy and
Transport (answered by the Cabinet Secretary for Finance) Adam
Price (Carmarthen East and Dinefwr): Will
the government make a statement on the A465 Heads of the Valleys road
enlargement scheme, following reports that the long term cost of the project
could soar from £428m to more than £1.2bn? To ask the Cabinet Secretary for Local
Government and Public Services (answered by the Cabinet Secretary for Finance) Leanne
Wood (Rhondda): Will the Cabinet Secretary make a
statement on the impact of the UK Budget on public sector pay in Wales? |
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(5 mins) |
90 Second Statements Minutes: The item started at
15.02 David Melding made
a statement on the final judgment of the International Criminal Tribunal for
the former Yugoslavia, in the case of General Ratko Mladic. |
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Motions to elect Members to committees The
item started at 15.05 In
accordance with Standing Order 12.24 it was agreed to group the following
motions for debate, and in accordance with Standing Order 12.40 it was agreed
to group the votes on the motions. NDM6575
Elin
Jones (Ceredigion) To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, in
accordance with Standing Order 17.3, elects Mick Antoniw (Labour) as a Member
of the Scrutiny of the Committee for the Scrutiny of the First Minister in
place of Huw Irranca-Davies (Labour). NDM6582
Elin Jones (Ceredigion) To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, in
accordance with Standing Order 17.14, elects Jane Hutt (Labour) as a Member of
the External Affairs and Additional Legislation Committee in place of Eluned
Morgan (Labour). NDM6583
Elin Jones (Ceredigion) To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, in
accordance with Standing Order 17.14, elects Jenny Rathbone (Labour) as a Member
of the External Affairs and Additional Legislation Committee in place of Jeremy
Miles (Labour). NDM6584
Elin Jones (Ceredigion) To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, in
accordance with Standing Order 17.14, elects Jane Hutt (Labour) as a Member of
the Finance Committee in place of Eluned Morgan (Labour). NDM6585
Elin Jones (Ceredigion) To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, in
accordance with Standing Order 17.14, elects Dawn Bowden (Labour) as a Member
of the Climate Change, Environment and Rural Affairs Committee in place of
Jenny Rathbone (Labour). NDM6586
Elin Jones (Ceredigion) To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, in
accordance with Standing Order 17.14, elects Mick Antoniw (Labour) as a Member
of the Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee in place of
Joyce Watson (Labour). NDM6587
Elin Jones (Ceredigion) To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, in
accordance with Standing Order 17.14, elects Joyce Watson (Labour) as a Member
of the Climate Change, Environment and Rural Affairs Committee in place of Huw
Irranca-Davies (Labour). NDM6588
Elin Jones (Ceredigion) To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, in
accordance with Standing Order 17.14, elects Mick Antoniw (Labour) as a Member
of the Culture, Welsh Language and Communications Committee in place of
Hannah Blythyn (Labour). NDM6589
Elin Jones (Ceredigion) To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, in
accordance with Standing Order 17.14, elects Joyce Watson (Labour) as a Member
of the Economy, Infrastructure and Skills Committee in place of Jeremy
Miles (Labour). NDM6590
Elin Jones (Ceredigion) To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, in
accordance with Standing Order 17.14, elects Lee Waters (Labour) as a Member of
the Economy, Infrastructure and Skills Committee in place of Hannah
Blythyn (Labour). NDM6591
Elin Jones (Ceredigion) To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, in
accordance with Standing Order 17.14, elects Jenny Rathbone (Labour) as a
Member of the Culture, Welsh Language and Communications Committee in
place of Dawn Bowden (Labour). NDM6592
Elin Jones (Ceredigion) To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, in
accordance with Standing Order 17.14, elects Rhianon Passmore (Labour) as a
Member of the Culture, Welsh Language and Communications Committee in
place of Jeremy Miles (Labour). The
motions were agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36. |
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Debate on the Economy, Infrastructure and Skills Committee report: Digital Infrastructure in Wales NDM6558 Russell George
(Montgomeryshire) To propose that the
National Assembly for Wales: Notes the report of
the Economy, Infrastructure and Skills Committee on its inquiry, 'Digital
Infrastructure in Wales', which was laid in the Table Office on 20 September 2017. Note: The response
by the Welsh Government was laid on 15 November 2017. Minutes: The item started at 15.05 NDM6558 Russell George (Montgomeryshire) To propose that the
National Assembly for Wales: Notes the report of
the Economy, Infrastructure and Skills Committee on its inquiry, 'Digital
Infrastructure in Wales', which was laid in the Table
Office on 20 September 2017. The motion was
agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36. |
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(60 mins) |
Welsh Conservatives debate NDM6571 Paul Davies
(Preseli Pembrokeshire) To propose that the
National Assembly for Wales: 1. Welcomes the Cross
Party Group on the Armed Forces and Cadets's inquiry into the impact of the
armed forces covenant in Wales and notes its recommendations. 2. Calls on the
Welsh Government to consider the recommendations put forward by the inquiry to
ensure all available support is provided for military personnel, veterans and
their families in Wales. The following amendments have been tabled: Amendment 1 Julie
James (Swansea West) Add as new point at
end of motion: Welcomes the Welsh
Government support that is provided for military personnel, veterans and their
families in Wales, including: a) The
collaborative approach of the multi-agency expert group to considering issues
affecting the Armed Forces community and collective means of addressing these
issues; b) the additional
£100k a year funding for the Veterans' NHS Wales service, to enhance its
capacity and improve its ability to help veterans in need; c) clarity on the
wide range of services available through delivery of its key policy documents
Package of Support, Welcome to Wales and the Housing Referral Pathway; and d) appointment of
pan-Wales Armed Forces Liaison Officers to ensure a consistent approach in the
delivery of the Covenant. Giving
and Receiving – Package of Support Amendment 2 Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn) Add as new point at
end of motion: Calls on the Welsh
Government to update the National Assembly for Wales on the implementation of
the National Housing Pathway for Ex-Service Personnel. Amendment 3 Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn) Add as new point at
end of motion: Welcomes the decision
to include questions about service in the armed forces in the National Rough
Sleeping Count and calls on the Welsh Government to publish the data collected. Minutes: The item started at
15.56 Voting
on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time. A
vote was taken on the motion without amendment: NDM6571 Paul
Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: 1.
Welcomes the Cross Party Group on the Armed Forces and Cadets's inquiry into
the impact of the armed forces covenant in Wales and notes its recommendations. 2.
Calls on the Welsh Government to consider the recommendations put forward by
the inquiry to ensure all available support is provided for military personnel,
veterans and their families in Wales.
The
motion without amendment was not agreed. The
following amendments were tabled: Amendment 1. Julie James (Swansea West) Add as new point at
end of motion: Welcomes the Welsh
Government support that is provided for military personnel, veterans and their
families in Wales, including: a) The
collaborative approach of the multi-agency expert group to considering issues
affecting the Armed Forces community and collective means of addressing these
issues; b) the additional
£100k a year funding for the Veterans' NHS Wales service, to enhance its
capacity and improve its ability to help veterans in need; c) clarity on the
wide range of services available through delivery of its key policy documents
Package of Support, Welcome to Wales and the Housing Referral Pathway; and d) appointment of
pan-Wales Armed Forces Liaison Officers to ensure a consistent approach in the
delivery of the Covenant. A vote was taken on
amendment 1:
Amendment
1 was agreed. Amendment 2. Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn) Add as new point at
end of motion: Calls on the Welsh
Government to update the National Assembly for Wales on the implementation of
the National Housing Pathway for Ex-Service Personnel. A vote was taken on
amendment 2:
Amendment
2 was agreed. Amendment 3. Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn) Add as new point at end of motion: Welcomes the decision to include questions about service in the armed
forces in the National Rough Sleeping Count and calls on the Welsh Government
to publish the data collected. A vote was taken on
amendment 3:
Amendment
3 was agreed. A
vote was taken on the motion as amended: NDM6571 Paul
Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: 1.
Welcomes the Cross Party Group on the Armed Forces and Cadets's inquiry into
the impact of the armed forces covenant in Wales and notes its recommendations. 2.
Calls on the Welsh Government to consider the recommendations put forward by
the inquiry to ensure all available support is provided for military personnel,
veterans and their families in Wales. 3. Welcomes the
Welsh Government support that is provided for military personnel, veterans and
their families in Wales, including: a) The
collaborative approach of the multi-agency expert group to considering issues
affecting the Armed Forces community and collective means of addressing these
issues; b) the additional
£100k a year funding for the Veterans' NHS Wales service, to enhance its
capacity and improve its ability to help veterans in need; c) clarity on the
wide range of services available through delivery of its key policy documents
Package of Support, Welcome to Wales and the Housing Referral Pathway; and d) appointment of
pan-Wales Armed Forces Liaison Officers to ensure a consistent approach in the
delivery of the Covenant. 4. Calls on the
Welsh Government to update the National Assembly for Wales on the
implementation of the National Housing Pathway for Ex-Service Personnel. 5. Welcomes the decision to include questions
about service in the armed forces in the National Rough Sleeping Count and
calls on the Welsh Government to publish the data collected.
The
motion as amended was agreed. |
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(60 mins) |
United Kingdom Independence Party debate NDM6566 Neil Hamilton
(Mid and West Wales) To propose that the
National Assembly for Wales: 1. Believes that: a) introducing new
Welsh taxes without the consent of the electorate, and treating Wales as an
experimental tax laboratory, will damage the reputation of both the Welsh
Government and National Assembly for Wales; and b) UK and Welsh
taxes are high enough already, stifling entrepreneurship and growth and
squeezing the budget of those on low incomes. 2. Calls on the
Welsh Government not to prioritise research into new Welsh taxes but, instead,
to pursue policies to improve economic growth and the creation of well paid
jobs, which neither place extra tax burdens on individuals and businesses, nor
punish individuals for their lifestyle choices. The following amendments have been tabled: Amendment 1 Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn) Delete all and
replace with: To propose that the
National Assembly for Wales: 1. Believes that
tax devolution to Wales provides an opportunity to enhance the accountability
of Welsh Government to the people of Wales. 2. Welcomes the
Welsh Government’s consultation on the possibility of introducing an innovative
tax to support environmental and public health policy objectives. 3. Supports the
introduction of a tax on disposable expanded polystyrene packaging. 4. Calls on the UK
Government to devolve air passenger duty and corporation tax to Wales. [If amendment 1 is agreed, amendments 2 and
3 will be de-selected] Amendment 2 Paul
Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire) Delete all and
replace with: To propose that the
National Assembly for Wales: 1. Welcomes the
Wales Act 2014 and the Wales Act 2017, which devolve more powers to the
National Assembly for Wales and provide greater accountability in relation to
the day-to-day workings of the Welsh Government. 2. Believes that a
comprehensive tax base encourages greater prosperity. 3. Regrets the
Welsh Government’s proposal to introduce a tax on the tourism industry in
Wales. [If amendment 2 is agreed, amendment 3 will
be de-selected] Amendment 3 Julie
James (Swansea West) Delete all and
replace with: To propose that the
National Assembly for Wales: Notes it
unanimously voted in favour of the decision to test the Wales Act mechanism to
propose new taxes in a debate on 4 July 2017. Minutes: The item started at
16.45 Voting
on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time. A
vote was taken on the motion without amendment: NDM6566 Neil Hamilton (Mid
and West Wales) To propose that the
National Assembly for Wales: 1. Believes that: a) introducing new
Welsh taxes without the consent of the electorate, and treating Wales as an
experimental tax laboratory, will damage the reputation of both the Welsh
Government and National Assembly for Wales; and b) UK and Welsh
taxes are high enough already, stifling entrepreneurship and growth and
squeezing the budget of those on low incomes. 2. Calls on the
Welsh Government not to prioritise research into new Welsh taxes but, instead,
to pursue policies to improve economic growth and the creation of well paid
jobs, which neither place extra tax burdens on individuals and businesses, nor
punish individuals for their lifestyle choices.
The
motion without amendment was not agreed. The
following amendments were tabled: Amendment 1. Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn) Delete all and replace
with: To propose that the
National Assembly for Wales: 1. Believes that
tax devolution to Wales provides an opportunity to enhance the accountability
of Welsh Government to the people of Wales. 2. Welcomes the
Welsh Government’s consultation on the possibility of introducing an innovative
tax to support environmental and public health policy objectives. 3. Supports the
introduction of a tax on disposable expanded polystyrene packaging. 4. Calls on the UK
Government to devolve air passenger duty and corporation tax to Wales. A vote was taken on
amendment 1:
Amendment
1 was not agreed. Amendment 2. Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire) Delete all and
replace with: To propose that the
National Assembly for Wales: 1. Welcomes the
Wales Act 2014 and the Wales Act 2017, which devolve more powers to the
National Assembly for Wales and provide greater accountability in relation to
the day-to-day workings of the Welsh Government. 2. Believes that a
comprehensive tax base encourages greater prosperity. 3. Regrets the
Welsh Government’s proposal to introduce a tax on the tourism industry in
Wales. A vote was taken on
amendment 2:
Amendment
2 was not agreed. Amendment 3. Julie James (Swansea West) Delete all and replace with: To propose that the National Assembly for Wales: Notes it unanimously voted in favour of the decision to test the Wales
Act mechanism to propose new taxes in a debate on 4 July 2017. A vote was taken on
amendment 3:
Amendment
3 was agreed. A
vote was taken on the motion as amended: NDM6566 Neil Hamilton (Mid
and West Wales) To propose that the National Assembly for Wales: Notes it unanimously voted in favour of the decision to test the Wales
Act mechanism to propose new taxes in a debate on 4 July 2017.
The
motion as amended was agreed. |
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Voting Time Minutes: The item started at
17.38 |
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Votes Summary Supporting documents: |
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(30 mins) |
Short Debate – Llyr Gruffydd (North Wales) NDM6567 Llyr Gruffydd (North Wales) A call for help: Safeguarding
missing children in Wales. Minutes: The item started at
17.42 NDM6567 Llyr Gruffydd (North Wales) A call for help:
Safeguarding missing children in Wales. |
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(30 mins) |
Short Debate – Neil Hamilton (Mid and West Wales) – Postponed from 15 November NDM6570 Neil Hamilton (Mid and West Wales) Business post-Brexit and the
opportunities for Wales. Minutes: The item started at
18.09 NDM6570 Neil Hamilton (Mid and West Wales) Business
post-Brexit and the opportunities for Wales. |