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Amending Standing Orders: Budget Process

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Meeting: 29/06/2017 - Health, Social Care and Sport Committee (Item 3)

3 Letter from the Finance Committee regarding the Scrutiny of the draft Budget

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Minutes:

3.2a The Committee noted the letter from the Finance Committee regarding the Scrutiny of the draft Budget.


Meeting: 28/06/2017 - Children, Young People and Education Committee (Item 6)

6 Letter from the Chair of the Finance Committee - Scrutiny of draft budget

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Meeting: 26/06/2017 - Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee (Item 2)

2 Letter from the Finance Committee: Scrutiny of the draft Budget

CLA(5)-17-17 – Paper 1 – Letter from the Finance Committee: Scrutiny of the draft budget

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Minutes:

The Committee noted the letter and welcomed the changes to Standing Orders outlined in the letter.


Meeting: 22/06/2017 - Culture, Welsh Language and Communications Committee (Item 4)

4 Letter from Chair of the Finance Committee to the Chair: Scrutiny of the draft budget

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Meeting: 21/06/2017 - Plenary (Item 6)

Motion to approve the budget protocol agreed by the Finance Committee and the Welsh Government

NDM6333 Simon Thomas (Mid and West Wales)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

Approves the protocol on the administrative arrangements for the scrutiny of the annual draft budget and other related budgetary matters agreed by the Finance Committee and the Welsh Government, laid in the Table Office on 13 June 2017.

Minutes:

NDM6333 Simon Thomas (Mid and West Wales)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

Approves the protocol on the administrative arrangements for the scrutiny of the annual draft budget and other related budgetary matters agreed by the Finance Committee and the Welsh Government, laid in the Table Office on 13 June 2017.

The motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.


Meeting: 21/06/2017 - Plenary (Item 5)

Motion to amend Standing Orders 16, 19, 20 and 27 in relation to the Budget Process and Finance Procedures

NDM6332 Elin Jones (Ceredigion)

To propose that the National Assembly, in accordance with Standing Order 33.2:

1. Considers the Report of the Business Committee 'Amending Standing Orders: Standing Orders 16, 19, 20 and 27 – Budget Process and Finance Procedures' laid in the Table Office on 14.06.17; and

2. Approves the proposal to revise Standing Orders 16, 19, 20 and 27, as set out in Annex B of the Report of the Business Committee.

Minutes:

NDM6332 Elin Jones (Ceredigion)

To propose that the National Assembly, in accordance with Standing Order 33.2:

1. Considers the Report of the Business Committee 'Amending Standing Orders: Standing Orders 16, 19, 20 and 27 – Budget Process and Finance Procedures' laid in the Table Office on 14.06.17; and

2. Approves the proposal to revise Standing Orders 16, 19, 20 and 27, as set out in Annex B of the Report of the Business Committee.

The motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.


Meeting: 21/06/2017 - Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee (Item 3)

3 Letter from the Chair of the Finance Committee in relation to scrutiny of the draft budget

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Minutes:

3.3.a The Committee noted the letter from the Chair of the Finance Committee in relation to scrutiny of the draft budget.


Meeting: 17/05/2017 - Finance Committee (Item 5)

5 Amending Standing Orders: Budget Process

Paper 3 - Revised budget protocol

Paper 4 – Draft letter to Business Committee

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Minutes:

5.1 The Committee agreed to the Chair writing to Business Committee with the revised Budget protocol.


Meeting: 03/05/2017 - Finance Committee (Item 8)

8 Changes to Standing Orders: Budget process

Paper 2 – Revised budget protocol

Supporting documents:

  • FIN(5)-12-17 P2 - Revised budget protocol

Minutes:

8.1 The Committee agreed to look at this item again in the next meeting.


Meeting: 29/03/2017 - Finance Committee (Item 8)

8 Changes to Standing Orders: Budget process

Paper 5 – Changes to Standing Orders: Budget process

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Minutes:

8.1 The Committee agreed to revisit the changes to Standing Orders in the summer term.


Meeting: 21/03/2017 - Business Committee (Item 4)

Proposals to amend Standing Orders in relation to the Budget Process

Supporting documents:

  • Restricted enclosure 39

Minutes:

Business Managers considered a paper setting out proposals, arrived at by both Assembly and Government officials, to reform the current budget processes in line with recommendations made by the previous Finance Committee’s Best Practice Budget Process inquiry.

 

Business Managers agreed to consult with the Finance Committee on the proposed changes, and to discuss them with their groups once a response had been received from the Committee. The Committee also agreed that the Chair of the Finance Committee and the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government should meet to discuss the proposals.

 

They asked that the draft protocol being considered by the Finance Committee be circulated to aid discussions around the Standing Orders. Business Committee will return to the matter early in the summer term.


Meeting: 14/02/2017 - Business Committee (Item 5)

Amending Standing Orders: Budget Process

Supporting documents:

  • Restricted enclosure 42

Minutes:

Business Managers considered a paper setting out proposals, arrived at by both Assembly and Government officials, to reform the current budget processes in line with recommendations made by the previous Finance Committee’s Best Practice Budget Process inquiry.

 

The Committee agreed in principle with the negotiated model by Assembly Commission and Welsh Government officials including the approach to the time available for budget scrutiny, and the split between outline and detailed budget proposals.

The Committee requested more detail on how the debate on the draft budget would work in practice if it were on a motion of the Finance Committee, before agreeing a preferred approach in Standing Orders.

 

Business Managers noted the Best Practice Report suggestion to recognise the link between approval of tax resolutions and approval of budget plans within Standing Orders, and agreed that no dependency needs be written into Standing Orders at this point, prior to the devolution of income tax.

 

The Committee agreed for the Secretariat to bring forward proposals for amending Standing Orders for Business Managers to take back to their groups, and to consult with the Finance Committee on.


Meeting: 13/12/2016 - Business Committee (Item 5)

Amending Standing Orders: Budget Process

Supporting documents:

  • Restricted enclosure 45

Minutes:

Business Managers noted a paper from the government requesting that the Business Committee’s discussion of the paper on Budget Scrutiny be deferred until early in the New Year in light of the Chancellor’s announcement that there would be changes to the UK budget timetable. This would allow time for the impact of the announcement to be more fully reviewed by all parties.


Meeting: 15/11/2016 - Business Committee (Item 5)

Amending Standing Orders: Budget Process

Supporting documents:

  • Restricted enclosure 48

Minutes:

Business Managers considered a paper setting out proposals, arrived at by both Assembly and Government officials, to reform the current budget processes in line with recommendations made by the previous Finance Committee’s Best Practice Budget Process inquiry.

 

The Committee agreed to return to the matter on 29 November following consultation with Party Groups. In the meantime, the Clerks of the Business and Finance Committees will meet with Business Managers to brief them on the proposals.