Meeting Venue:
Y Siambr - Senedd
Meeting date:
Wednesday, 13 November 2019
Meeting time: 13.30
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The item started at 13.30
Questions 1 and 3-10 were asked. Question 2 was not asked. The Presiding Officer invited party spokespeople to ask questions to the Minister after question 1.
The item started at 14.16
The first 9 questions were asked. Questions 5 and 7 were answered by the Deputy Minister for Housing and Local Government. The Presiding Officer invited party spokespeople to ask questions to the Minister after question 2.
No Topical Questions were accepted.
The item started at 15.00
Leanne Wood made a statement on - Singing in the Rhondda - celebrating the success of YGG Llwyncelyn who are on the M&S Christmas advert.
Vaughan Gethin made a statement on - Remembrance and the Merchant Navy.
Mike Hedges made a statement on - 200th anniversary of John Humphreys birth (known as God’s architect for the chapels he designed including Tabernacle Morriston).
The item started at 15.05
Voting on the motion under this item was deferred until Voting Time.
NDM7192 - Jayne Bryant (Newport West)
To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
1. Notes that the office of the National Assembly for Wales Commissioner for Standards is vacant.
2. Appoints, Douglas Bain CBE TD, as acting Commissioner in accordance with Section 4(1) of the National Assembly for Wales Commissioner for Standards Measure 2009, on the following terms:
a) the appointment takes effect immediately;
b) the appointment ends immediately when notice is given to the acting Commissioner by the Clerk of the Assembly;
c) the acting Commissioner’s Remuneration is to be a daily rate of £392 (or pro-rata for part of a day) for activities that relate directly to the role and responsibilities of the post plus reasonable expenses;
d) all sums referred to in paragraph 2(c) are to be paid to the acting Commissioner by the Assembly Commission.
National Assembly for Wales Commissioner for Standards Measure 2009
The result was as follows:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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40 |
0 |
2 |
42 |
The motion was agreed.
The item started at 15.13
NDM7184 Elin Jones (Ceredigion)
To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, in accordance with Standing Order 33.2:
1. Considers the Report of the Business Committee ‘Proposals to introduce a new Standing Order 18A for oversight of the Public Services Ombudsman for Wales’ laid in the Table Office on 6 November 2019.
2. Approves the proposal to introduce a new Standing Order 18A, as set out in Annex B of the Report of the Business Committee.
The motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
The item started at 15.13
NDM7185 Elin Jones (Ceredigion)
To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, in accordance with Standing Order 33.2:
1. Considers the Report of the Business Committee ‘Amending Standing Orders: Standing Order 12.63 - Oral Assembly Questions’ laid in the Table Office on 6 November 2019.
2. Approves the proposal to revise Standing Order 12.63, as set out in Annex B of the Report of the Business Committee.
The motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
The item started at 15.14
NDM7186 Elin Jones (Ceredigion)
To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, in accordance with Standing Order 16.3, agrees to alter the remit of the Equalities, Local Government and Communities Committee, so that its remit is as follows:
a) to examine legislation and hold the Welsh Government to account by scrutinising expenditure, administration and policy matters encompassing (but not restricted to): local government; housing, community regeneration, cohesion and safety; tackling poverty; equality of opportunity and human rights;
b) to exercise the non-budgetary functions set out in Standing Order 18A.2 in relation to accountability and governance of the Public Services Ombudsman for Wales.
The motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
The item started at 15.14
NDM7187 Elin Jones (Ceredigion)
To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, in accordance with Standing Order 16.3, agrees to alter the remit of the Finance Committee, so that its remit is as follows:
a) to carry out the functions of the responsible committee set out in Standing Orders 18.10, 18.11, 18A.2(iv) and (v), 19 and 20 of the National Assembly for Wales;
b) under Standing Orders 19 and 20, the committee’s responsibilities include considering any report or document laid before the Assembly concerning the use of resources, or expenditure from the Welsh Consolidated Fund, including undertaking budget scrutiny of the bodies directly funded from the Welsh Consolidated Fund;
c) under Standing Orders 18.10 and 18.11, the committee’s responsibilities include oversight of the governance of the Wales Audit Office, as set out in the Public Audit (Wales) Act 2013;
d) under Standing Order 18A.2(iv) and (v), to exercise budgetary functions in relation to the Public Services Ombudsman for Wales;
e) the committee also considers any proposals for, and the progress of the devolution of fiscal powers to Wales as part of its responsibilities;
f) the committee may also scrutinise legislation introduced to the Assembly.
The motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
The item started at 15.15
NDM7182 Suzy Davies (South Wales West)
To propose that the National Assembly for Wales in accordance with Standing Order 20.16:
Agrees the budget of the Assembly Commission for 2020-21, as specified in Table 1 of the “National Assembly for Wales Assembly Commission Budget 2020-21”, laid before the Assembly on 6 November 2019 and that it be incorporated in the Annual Budget Motion under Standing Order 20.26(ii).
The motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
The item started at 15.32
The item started at 15.33
NDM7183 Neil Hamilton (Mid and West Wales)
The National Development Framework: Turning mid-Wales into the world’s biggest wind farm.
At 15.55 proceedings were suspended for 10 minutes.
A vote was taken on amendment 162:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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16 |
0 |
39 |
55 |
Amendment 162 was not agreed.
A vote was taken on amendment 127:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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37 |
0 |
18 |
55 |
Amendment 127 was agreed.
As amendment 127 was agreed, amendment 2 fell.
Amendment 128 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
Amendment 44 was not moved.
A vote was taken on amendment 147:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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41 |
0 |
14 |
55 |
Amendment 147 was agreed.
Amendment 148 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
A vote was taken on amendment 149A:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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11 |
0 |
44 |
55 |
Amendment 149A was not agreed.
Amendments 149B, 149C and 149D were voted for en bloc:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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18 |
0 |
37 |
55 |
Amendments 149B, 149C and 149D were not agreed.
A vote was taken on amendment 149:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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33 |
0 |
21 |
54 |
Amendment 149 was agreed.
Amendment 45 was not moved
A vote was taken on amendment 150:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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41 |
1 |
13 |
55 |
Amendment 150 was agreed.
Amendment 46 was not moved
A vote was taken on amendment 151:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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40 |
0 |
14 |
54 |
Amendment 151 was agreed.
Amendment 47 was not moved
A vote was taken on amendment 152:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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41 |
0 |
14 |
55 |
Amendment 152 was agreed.
Amendments 153A, 153B and 153C were voted for en bloc:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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18 |
0 |
37 |
55 |
Amendments 153A, 153B and 153C were not agreed.
A vote was taken on amendment 153:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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42 |
0 |
13 |
55 |
Amendment 153 was agreed.
As amendment 153 was agreed, amendment 48 fell.
Amendments 154A, 154B and 154C were voted for en bloc:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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18 |
0 |
36 |
54 |
Amendments 154A, 154B and 154C were not agreed.
A vote was taken on amendment 154:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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40 |
0 |
14 |
54 |
Amendment 154 was agreed.
As amendment 154 was agreed, amendments 49, 50 and 51 fell.
Amendment 52 was not moved
A vote was taken on amendment 155:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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41 |
0 |
14 |
55 |
Amendment 155 was agreed.
A vote was taken on amendment 156:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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41 |
0 |
14 |
55 |
Amendment 156 was agreed.
As amendment 156 was agreed, amendments 53 and 54 fell.
A vote was taken on amendment 81A:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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18 |
0 |
37 |
55 |
Amendment 81A was not agreed.
A vote was taken on amendment 81B:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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18 |
0 |
37 |
55 |
Amendment 81B was not agreed.
Amendment 81 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
A vote was taken on amendment 102:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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10 |
0 |
45 |
55 |
Amendment 102 was not agreed.
A vote was taken on amendment 3:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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19 |
0 |
36 |
55 |
Amendment 3 was not agreed.
Amendment 4 was not moved.
Amendment 160 was withdrawn
A vote was taken on amendment 5:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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17 |
0 |
38 |
55 |
Amendment 5 was not agreed.
Amendment 6 was not moved
A vote was taken on amendment 103:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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10 |
0 |
44 |
54 |
Amendment 103 was not agreed.
Amendment 7 was not moved
A vote was taken on amendment 104:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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10 |
1 |
44 |
55 |
Amendment 104 was not agreed.
A vote was taken on amendment 105:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
10 |
1 |
44 |
55 |
Amendment 105 was not agreed.
Amendment 8 was not moved
A vote was taken on amendment 106:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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10 |
0 |
45 |
55 |
Amendment 106 was not agreed.
A vote was taken on amendment 107:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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10 |
0 |
45 |
55 |
Amendment 107 was not agreed.
A vote was taken on amendment 108:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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10 |
0 |
45 |
55 |
Amendment 108 was not agreed.
A vote was taken on amendment 109:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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10 |
0 |
45 |
55 |
Amendment 109 was not agreed.
Amendment 9 was not moved
Amendment 10 was not moved
A vote was taken on amendment 110:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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10 |
0 |
45 |
55 |
Amendment 110 was not agreed.
A vote was taken on amendment 111:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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10 |
0 |
45 |
55 |
Amendment 111 was not agreed.
A vote was taken on amendment 112:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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10 |
0 |
45 |
55 |
Amendment 112 was not agreed.
Amendment 11 was not moved.
Amendment 12 was not moved.
A vote was taken on amendment 113:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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10 |
0 |
45 |
55 |
Amendment 113 was not agreed.
Amendment 13 was not moved
Amendment 14 was not moved
Amendment 15 was not moved
A vote was taken on amendment 114:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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10 |
0 |
45 |
55 |
Amendment 114 was not agreed.
A vote was taken on amendment 115:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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10 |
0 |
45 |
55 |
Amendment 115 was not agreed.
A vote was taken on amendment 116:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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10 |
0 |
44 |
54 |
Amendment 116 was not agreed.
A vote was taken on amendment 117:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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10 |
0 |
44 |
54 |
Amendment 117 was not agreed.
A vote was taken on amendment 118:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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10 |
0 |
45 |
55 |
Amendment 118 was not agreed.
Amendment 16 was not moved.
A vote was taken on amendment 119:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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10 |
0 |
45 |
55 |
Amendment 119 was not agreed.
Amendment 86 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
Amendment 17 was not moved.
A vote was taken on amendment 120:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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11 |
0 |
44 |
55 |
Amendment 120 was not agreed.
Amendment 18 was not moved.
A vote was taken on amendment 121:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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10 |
0 |
45 |
55 |
Amendment 121 was not agreed.
Amendment 19 was not moved.
A vote was taken on amendment 122:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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10 |
0 |
45 |
55 |
Amendment 122 was not agreed.
A vote was taken on amendment 129:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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45 |
8 |
2 |
55 |
Amendment 129 was agreed.
At 18.05, the Deputy Presiding Officer suspended proceedings in accordance with Standing Order 17.47. The bell was rung 5 minutes before reconvening at 18.15.
A vote was taken on amendment 66:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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39 |
0 |
16 |
55 |
Amendment 66 was agreed.
A vote was taken on amendment 67:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
39 |
0 |
16 |
55 |
Amendment 67 was agreed.
A vote was taken on amendment 68:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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40 |
0 |
14 |
54 |
Amendment 68 was agreed.
Amendment 69A was not moved
A vote was taken on amendment 69:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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40 |
0 |
15 |
55 |
Amendment 69 was agreed.
A vote was taken on amendment 70:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
40 |
0 |
15 |
55 |
Amendment 70 was agreed.
A vote was taken on amendment 71:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
40 |
0 |
15 |
55 |
Amendment 71 was agreed.
A vote was taken on amendment 72:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
40 |
4 |
11 |
55 |
Amendment 72 was agreed.
Amendment 20 was not moved
A vote was taken on amendment 87:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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44 |
0 |
11 |
55 |
Amendment 87 was agreed.
Amendment 55 was not moved.
A vote was taken on amendment 157:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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41 |
0 |
14 |
55 |
Amendment 157 was agreed.
Amendment 56 was not moved.
A vote was taken on amendment 158:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
41 |
0 |
14 |
55 |
Amendment 158 was agreed.
Amendment 82 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
Amendment 57 was not moved.
A vote was taken on amendment 159:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
42 |
0 |
13 |
55 |
Amendment 159 was agreed.
A vote was taken on amendment 97:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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40 |
0 |
15 |
55 |
Amendment 97 was agreed.
A vote was taken on amendment 83:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
40 |
0 |
15 |
55 |
Amendment 83 was agreed.
A vote was taken on amendment 84:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
40 |
0 |
15 |
55 |
Amendment 84 was agreed.
Amendment 21 was not moved.
A vote was taken on amendment 130:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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41 |
0 |
14 |
55 |
Amendment 130 was agreed.
As amendment 130 was agreed, amendment 22 fell.
Amendment 88 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
Amendment 23 was not moved.
A vote was taken on amendment 131:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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41 |
0 |
12 |
53 |
Amendment 131 was agreed.
As amendment 131 was agreed, amendment 24 fell.
A vote was taken on amendment 25:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
15 |
0 |
39 |
54 |
Amendment 25 was not agreed.
Amendment 89 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
A vote was taken on amendment 90:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
42 |
0 |
12 |
54 |
Amendment 90 was agreed.
Amendment 26 was not moved.
A vote was taken on amendment 132:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
41 |
0 |
13 |
54 |
Amendment 132 was agreed.
Amendment 91 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
Amendment 92 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
Amendment 98 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
Amendments 59, 60 and 58 were not moved.
Amendment 61 was not moved.
Amendment 62 was not moved.
Amendment 63 was not moved.
Amendment 99 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
Amendment 73A was not moved.
A vote was taken on amendment 73:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
50 |
0 |
4 |
54 |
Amendment 73 was agreed.
Amendment 27 was not moved.
A vote was taken on amendment 133:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
42 |
0 |
12 |
54 |
Amendment 133 was agreed.
Amendment 28 was not moved.
A vote was taken on amendment 134:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
41 |
0 |
13 |
54 |
Amendment 134 was agreed.
Amendment 29 was not moved.
A vote was taken on amendment 135:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
41 |
0 |
13 |
54 |
Amendment 135 was agreed.
Amendment 30 was not moved.
A vote was taken on amendment 136:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
40 |
0 |
13 |
53 |
Amendment 136 was agreed.
A vote was taken on amendment 31:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
15 |
0 |
39 |
54 |
Amendment 31 was not agreed.
Amendment 32 was not moved.
A vote was taken on amendment 137:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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41 |
0 |
13 |
54 |
Amendment 137 was agreed.
Amendment 33 was not moved.
A vote was taken on amendment 138:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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41 |
0 |
13 |
54 |
Amendment 138 was agreed.
Amendment 34 was not moved.
A vote was taken on amendment 139:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
41 |
0 |
13 |
54 |
Amendment 139 was agreed.
Amendment 35 was not moved.
A vote was taken on amendment 140:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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41 |
0 |
13 |
54 |
Amendment 140 was agreed.
Amendment 36 was not moved.
A vote was taken on amendment 141:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
40 |
0 |
13 |
53 |
Amendment 141 was agreed.
Amendment 37 was not moved.
A vote was taken on amendment 142:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
41 |
0 |
13 |
54 |
Amendment 142 was agreed.
Amendment 38 was not moved.
A vote was taken on amendment 143:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
41 |
0 |
13 |
54 |
Amendment 143 was agreed.
Amendment 39 was not moved.
A vote was taken on amendment 144:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
41 |
0 |
12 |
53 |
Amendment 144 was agreed.
A vote was taken on amendment 74:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
48 |
0 |
4 |
52 |
Amendment 74 was agreed.
A vote was taken on amendment 75:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
50 |
0 |
4 |
54 |
Amendment 75 was agreed.
A vote was taken on amendment 76:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
50 |
0 |
4 |
54 |
Amendment 76 was agreed.
Amendment 40 was not moved.
Amendment 41 was not moved.
A vote was taken on amendment 145:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
41 |
0 |
13 |
54 |
Amendment 145 was agreed.
Amendment 42 was not moved.
A vote was taken on amendment 146:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
41 |
0 |
13 |
54 |
Amendment 146 was agreed.
Amendment 94 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
Amendment 164A was not moved.
Amendment 164B was not moved.
Amendment 164 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
A vote was taken on amendment 123:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
8 |
0 |
46 |
54 |
Amendment 123 was not agreed.
A vote was taken on amendment 124:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
8 |
0 |
46 |
54 |
Amendment 124 was not agreed.
Amendment 77 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
Amendment 43 was not moved.
Amendment 95 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
As amendment 95 was agreed, amendments 125 and 126 fell.
Amendment 78 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
A vote was taken on amendment 165:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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49 |
0 |
4 |
53 |
Amendment 165 was agreed.
Amendment 79 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
Amendment 96 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
Amendment 80 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
Amendment 64 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
A vote was taken on amendment 161:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
10 |
0 |
43 |
53 |
Amendment 161 was not agreed.
A vote was taken on amendment 101:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
8 |
0 |
45 |
53 |
Amendment 101 was not agreed.
Amendment 1 was not moved.
A vote was taken on amendment 65:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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49 |
0 |
4 |
53 |
Amendment 65 was agreed.
Amendment 85 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
Amendment 163 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
As amendment 102 was not agreed, amendment 100 fell.
All sections and schedules of the Bill were deemed agreed, concluding Stage 3 proceedings.
The meeting concluded at 19.17
The Assembly will sit again in Plenary at 13.30, Tuesday, 19 November 2019